tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6235455742176238008.post3768259521967964898..comments2024-01-02T22:07:03.203-05:00Comments on A Real Man's Objective Reviews / Gunsumer Reports: FNAR Review - Fourth Range Test (100 yards)Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6235455742176238008.post-90559465375754457832013-06-07T11:26:33.261-04:002013-06-07T11:26:33.261-04:00I bought my FNAR in Sept. of 2013. I too have had ...I bought my FNAR in Sept. of 2013. I too have had very frustrating and inconsistent accuracy results. It does not like Fed GMM 168 ammo at all (2.7" groups). I just sent mine to the factory for service now, June 2013. Mine had a MN in the serial # meaning it was built in 2009. You can see my posts and targets in the FNFORUM website under FNAR. Lots of good info there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6235455742176238008.post-32540961948909960902012-07-22T01:47:13.510-04:002012-07-22T01:47:13.510-04:00I have the winchester version All cameo heavy barr...I have the winchester version All cameo heavy barrel with a Nikon 4X14 cyote scope (what can I say the cameo pattern matches). I hunted with this combo last deer season using hornady 168gr balistic tip with good results. this combo gives me 1 1/2" groups at 160 yards. I do not hesitate to recomond this weapon just wish it was lighter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6235455742176238008.post-29579290464412454392010-10-07T15:28:19.393-04:002010-10-07T15:28:19.393-04:00John, also consider the purchase of a Savage 20 in...John, also consider the purchase of a Savage 20 inch heavy barrel, in .308 with a 6x24 scope of your choice. These rifles are incredible john, and not to mention fairly in expensive!<br /><br />I have achieved groups of less than .40 at 100yrds on a regular basis using federal match grade ammo, and these groups were based on a five shot group.<br />I will purchase a box of buffalo .308 and do a comparison soon, and then i will get back to you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6235455742176238008.post-62714565092929446302010-10-06T20:14:39.636-04:002010-10-06T20:14:39.636-04:00JOHN, IF YOU TRULY WANT OUTSTANDING GROUPS FROM AN...JOHN, IF YOU TRULY WANT OUTSTANDING GROUPS FROM ANOTHER ROUND, THEN PURCHASE A BOX OF FEDERAL MATCH GRADE AMMO USING THE SIERRA MATCHKING BOAT TAIL HOLLOW POINT BULLET.<br />I HAVE YET TO FIND ANYTHING MORE ACCURATE, I KID YOU NOT.<br />I WILL TRY THE BUFFALO BORE AMMO AS A COMPARISON FOR SURE JOHN.<br />I LOVE THE BUFFALO BORE AMMO VERY, VERY MUCH, ESPECIALLY IN MY 45-70, AND .44 MAG IN 340 GRAIN.<br /><br />THANKS JOHN, JERAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6235455742176238008.post-32963766381952352192010-09-05T13:04:55.942-04:002010-09-05T13:04:55.942-04:00I'm working on a 5th range test update now and...I'm working on a 5th range test update now and should have it posted over this holiday weekend.<br /><br />I has seen some info on the web that states the barrel being drilled and tapped for a front sight, but I have never seen this version of rifle.<br /><br />It might end up being a little micky-mouse, but you could clamp a barrel rail mount and then install some backup sights if you could get the height difference between the front and back rail to work. UTG sells a cheap mount so you could give it a try. See the link below for the mount.<br /><br />http://www.leapers.com/prod_detail.php?mitem=mount&level1=Barrel_Mount&level2=&itemno=MNT-BR002S&status=&mtrack=11mKevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02504174105185569473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6235455742176238008.post-46730224579929389322010-09-03T17:12:42.882-04:002010-09-03T17:12:42.882-04:00It would be great to get an update on the FNAR. I...It would be great to get an update on the FNAR. I'm considering a purchase of one due to the accuracy and stock accessories. My main concern is iron sights. I like iron sights and the more accurate the firearm the better. I'd like to have something that could be used in HeMan 3-gun. After searching extensively through the forums, I've yet to see an iron sight set up. People have pointed out that some barrels were drilled and tapped for a front sight, but I've yet to see what they used. <br /><br />Any input on that would be appreciated. A long term report on throat erosion, general accuracy, and tightness of the parts would be great also.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6235455742176238008.post-87854021743132624402010-07-16T17:19:56.324-04:002010-07-16T17:19:56.324-04:00John,
My rifle is the standard version "ligh...John,<br /><br />My rifle is the standard version "light". Not sure if you already found it, but there are many sections to this review that can be found at:<br /><br />http://arealmansreviews.blogspot.com/2010/04/fnar-review-posts-pros-cons-and-bottom.html<br /><br />If your is the heavy barrel, there would be a difference, but I would expect that to be able to achieve a greater accuracy.Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02504174105185569473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6235455742176238008.post-37093562554603942592010-07-15T12:13:36.365-04:002010-07-15T12:13:36.365-04:00Kevin,
Looking closely at your photos, I believe ...Kevin,<br /><br />Looking closely at your photos, I believe your gun is the "light" barrel version? In particular, I'm looking at the shoulder in the barrel taper just below the objective lens. Not sure it is important, just trying to identify every variable. Please clarify.<br /><br />Thanks,<br /><br />Johnjohn35216https://www.blogger.com/profile/03658617393868518877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6235455742176238008.post-40824848441865180052010-07-14T08:20:32.924-04:002010-07-14T08:20:32.924-04:00No, there's nothing different going on with my...No, there's nothing different going on with my setup, conditions, fatigue, etc. And I've done this type of thing multiple times, in fact it is practically a 100% repeatable phenomenon that I can shoot as shown with the Kimber (or that Tikka...that thing is even more accurate), and then follow up with a disapointing, not as advertised target from the FN AR. Bags, precision rest, bipod/rear bag, Aegis guidance system, you name it. I can beat the FN AR with the M1A SuperMatch at 100 regularly, and it has iron sights. Keep in mind, FN replaced Gun #1...after they re-barreled it and it still wouldn't shoot straight. Gun #2, which shot the target you see, is on its way to Missouri. In all fairness, FN's customer service has been superb.john35216https://www.blogger.com/profile/03658617393868518877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6235455742176238008.post-89152793005014867722010-07-14T00:08:50.985-04:002010-07-14T00:08:50.985-04:00John,
Sorry the photos don't show up. The bl...John,<br /><br />Sorry the photos don't show up. The blog commenting tool is not as fancy as some other sites. I did look at them and you have a nice collection. I'm surprised about the Federal Gold Medal Match. I purchased a box last week and I'm planning to shoot this weekend if work doesn't get in the way. Don't worry, I know about the difference between a target and hunting bullet. Your FNAR results being over a 2" group at 100 yards were similar to when I was using a mechanical rest system (Lead Sled). When I switched over to a sand bag system I got better results as shown in this post. My question, are you doing anything different with the FNAR that you don't normally do shooting. Obviously your Kimber group is a good indication you can shoot.Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02504174105185569473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6235455742176238008.post-3273969650583458632010-07-13T12:50:06.635-04:002010-07-13T12:50:06.635-04:00Kevin,
You may already know this, but do NOT use ...Kevin,<br /><br />You may already know this, but do NOT use match ammo for hunting. While the projectiles look deadly enough, they won't hold together and will just create a superficial wound. They are built for stability and nothing else.<br /><br />We're on the same page through the rest of your comments. I've just strange experiences with this gun so far. One has been replaced, and I'm seeing horizontal stringing, when I can get a group at all. FN claims that Federal Gold Medal Match 168 is the preferred ammo for this gun. I've never gotten it to shoot well in this gun at all, but I can drive tacks with it in my other guns. Target attached. The FN AR that shot this target (gun #2) is going back to Missouri this week.<br /><br />[IMG]http://i962.photobucket.com/albums/ae108/john0206/IMG_2012.jpg[/IMG]<br /><br />And some general gun porn...<br /><br />[IMG]http://i962.photobucket.com/albums/ae108/john0206/IMG_2008.jpg[/IMG]<br /><br />L to R: Tikka T3 Tactical .223; M1A SuperMatch; Kimber 8400 Advanced Tactical Rifle in .308; FN ARjohn35216https://www.blogger.com/profile/03658617393868518877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6235455742176238008.post-66833081234017726592010-07-13T06:30:10.444-04:002010-07-13T06:30:10.444-04:00John,
To answer your question about the difficult...John,<br /><br />To answer your question about the difficulty to shoot the gun, I believe this is a matter of preference. Now that I have been shooting my FNAR, my trusty old Remington Model 788 bolt just doesn't feel the same. It is sad because I purchased that gun myself 30 years ago and it has made every deer season since. I'm really looking forward the taking the FNAR into the field. The pistol grip is what I like best about the rifle. I think it gives better control of the rifle, but I have also been shooting a Ruger 10/22 with a pistol grip stock for about 20 years and I'm sure that helps(1000s of rounds shot).Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02504174105185569473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6235455742176238008.post-80476303657886657822010-07-12T22:11:43.059-04:002010-07-12T22:11:43.059-04:00John,
I have not decided yet which ammo I'm g...John,<br /><br />I have not decided yet which ammo I'm going to shoot. I liked match ammo (A-Max or Buffalo Bore Sniper), but I want be taking any of that to the field hunting. During my 4th range test I had about 200 rounds through the rifle and had cleaned the barrel regularly throught shooting. I'm not saying I'm the best shot, but I think I can do better than the average guy. The first thing is to make sure you are making all your shots from a bench and are really bagged in. Also, I'm not sure how long you allow for cool down between groups. If you can drive nails with your other bolt guns, then maybe none of this is an issue. I think that it may be a harmonics issue. Take a look at this site. <br /><br />http://optimalchargeweight.embarqspace.com/<br /><br />I think that some of the match ammo out today is designed in the sweet spot for most guns. I can't say the same about the hunting ammo because I'm still looking for the best for my rifle. Realistically, I feel like I could take a shot out to 200 yards without a problem with nearly anything I decide to shoot. My problem is deciding what to use to zero the rifle since they tend to group differently. I'm already purchasing more ammo to checkout and will head to the range in a couple of weeks, so I will try to give some more range results.Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02504174105185569473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6235455742176238008.post-90770752707135515542010-07-12T21:50:17.147-04:002010-07-12T21:50:17.147-04:00Kevin,
I wonder how many rounds you had through t...Kevin,<br /><br />I wonder how many rounds you had through the tube by the time you made this report. While these are hardened barrels and theoretically don't need breaking in, it's generally thought that increased round count in the early life of a barrel enhances accuracy. I wonder if that is an additional factor, along with increased famililarity with the gun. Would you agree that this is a decidedly difficult gun to shoot, compared to a bolt gun? I think it has to do with the pistol grip, but I find myself having a difficult time getting comfortable on it.<br /><br />Regards,<br /><br />Johnjohn35216https://www.blogger.com/profile/03658617393868518877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6235455742176238008.post-75002084357604128122010-07-12T20:39:27.090-04:002010-07-12T20:39:27.090-04:00Kevin,
I am VERY interested in your experience wi...Kevin,<br /><br />I am VERY interested in your experience with the FN AR, because I have two of them, and have had quite a bit of trouble with them in the accuracy department. I have already sent one back, and FN replaced the gun. So far, the only ammunition I have had any luck with at all has been Lapua 170 gr. Lock Base, but even it displays horizontal stringing. I will be eager to strike up a dialog with you on this situation, as you are the first "real guy" that I have encountered that has done this much leg work on the gun.<br /><br />Regards,<br /><br />Johnjohn35216https://www.blogger.com/profile/03658617393868518877noreply@blogger.com